No Strategy Involved!

I started playing this game because I command an Abrams M1A1 tank in the US Army, and love everything associated with tanks. I soon realized this game is about money and little about strategy! You have battles with players who have maxed out tanks and are not afraid to drive out into the open because they know it will take multiple hits from multiple tanks to destroy them...(If at all). I'm not complaining because I cannot afford to purchase diamonds, I enjoy looking for the perfect sniper position to take target out, or coordinating with teammates to capture a flag, my issue is players should not be able to "buy" their way to stronger/faster tanks. In the army, hard work and dedication earns promotions, not PAYMENTS! I will be leaving this game to go back to playing Runescape; where although it gets really boring grinding to the next level, every player has the same opportunities BASED ON HARD WORK AND DEDICATION...NOT BASED ON HOW MUCH MONEY THEY CAN SPEND TO LEVEL-UP!

I realize it takes money to run this game, and pay the AWESOME developers and other staff, but maybe Tanki should consider a monthly membership fee instead. We have almost 200k members...5 or 10 dollars per moth from each of them would probably earn Tanki more money than the money they/you make selling diamonds each month. I've enjoyed my time playing this game, but I'm a Warrant Officer 2, and when I get killed with one hit by a Master Sergeant on a regular basis, it's time to find a new game! I get a bonus check each month when I'm stationed in Iraq or Afghanistan, but I refuse to waste it buying diamonds just so I can compete!!!

why would you say pay monthly that is lame how about the kids that dont feel like bothering there parents by asking for money not every could be rich!

I wrote all that and all's you can say is it would be lame? THAT'S LAME! There has to be a happy medium between those who can afford to pay and those who cannot, or choose not too! Maybe there would be a members/non-members area...who knows! I do know that this is a war strategy game WITHOUT much strategy involved. Being able to BUY your way to the highest paints, armor, guns, and power-ups involves ZERO strategy, planning, or luck! It's a shame because if players were more fearful of dying, the game would be much more interesting! I command an Abrams tank, and I guarantee you I would never give the order to jump out into the open and start rushing to an enemy position. With this game the strategy is to run out to the flag, if you die, run back out until you finally make it through! That may have worked in the trenches of WW1, but I think we've come a long way since then, and deserve to play a game that takes 1/2 a brain!

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The idea of monthly subscription has been discussed a number of times. The general opinion is that it will not fit the format of the game. Currently, it is possible (and not extremely hard) to have top-level weapons without donating (see, for example, a player called strrol), but if you wish to speed up the leveling and get new guns quicker, you can always give the developers a few bucks. After all, $10 buy you 1500 crystals.

This game is not and was never intended to be a realistic simulator. It is an arcade and does not presume real-world tactics. If you're looking for tank simulators, you should explore other options.

Thanks for the reply. I understand the game is not intended to be a simulator version; however, I'm sure the developers didn't intend on designing a game players can master simply buy opening their wallets! If that were the case, they wouldn't have barriers, multiple maps, or team talk. The "capture the flag" concept IS a strategy based game...Many players coordinate their attacks using snipers, defenders, attackers, and players to sacrifice themselves, so their teammates can capture the flag. Please don't try to convince me that the developers intended this game to be as easy as a players money can make it. And please don't insult my intelligence by naming one person out of nearly 200,000 who have reached a high level without spending money only. I don't know if that player has digital armor or not, but I can tell you this "there is no way in hell he/she collected 8000 diamonds without spending every waking moment playing! I probably will donate money to this game for upgrades (mainly because I want to do my part to keep the game alive), but I will feel really guilty doing so because I made many in-game friends who will never be able to afford to buy diamonds.

Hawktyme wrote:please don't insult my intelligence by naming one person out of nearly 200,000 who have reached a high level without spending money only. I don't know if that player has digital armor or not, but I can tell you this "there is no way in hell he/she collected 8000 diamonds without spending every waking moment playing!

That's the point. Main reason to pay real money in this game (exsect your desire to support project) is to get gun/armor/power-ups much quicker then if you play like that guy. Yes he spend a LOT of time in the game. Who have no time can use credit card.

Actually there are a lot of us not spending a penny, (i personally would if i could), and i am pretty sure paid crystals won't give players respect, does it?

Playing beautiful is what you would be looking for. And that what makes you and others think you are a master.
You can have smokey m3 just in the first days of playing, and thats what i am using being a capitan. And if i played like a pro, other's would be afraid of me. No need to pay to be named master!

And you maybe thinking it is not a Nike™ video serious, and there aren't joga bonito in tanki, but there are! Redirect railgun shots, return our flags, capture enemy's, and thats what makes your play beautiful.

Are there any other strategies in a game like counter strike attack? i don't think in a Massive Multiplayer Online Game, there can be more strategies involved. other than that, the community is open to any new suggestions. if you have any, let's make the game yet more enjoyable!

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You will not be able to dominate the game by simply buying crystals, that I can guarantee you. After you've reached a certain rank, pretty much everyone owns a third mod of the dictator and a maxed out railgun, and most know how to use them. No matter how much money you donated, there will always be someone who has the same equipment and amount of power-ups that you do. The game starts there.

p.s. yes, strrol has a digital paint. No, he did not spend 'every waking moment' in the game, in fact he does not play that much.

You're right, eventually everyone will have all the same things, but that's not "when the game begins", that's when the game ends! Those who buy diamonds to get ahead do it so they can have things sooner than others so they have an advantage...If everyone in a battle has the same things, there isn't any advantage. They will either jump games to find one they can dominate, or log out!

You will not be able to dominate the game by simply buying crystals, that I can guarantee you.

You can and it does happen, more often than not. And I've never seen you in any of these battles.

Also wish there was more strategy, different tanks that had good/bad points. Hulls that could only have certain weapons.
Increase in accuracy the more you play. Or some incentive.
The ranking system is now pointless, double score!

The main problem for me is the drugs (powerups). Thats what seems to be the cash cow for tanki, and for me thats what spoils 90% of the games. Its great when people don't use bought powerups and only use in game ones. It was even better before they started giving out the free ones. If there was a button to create a battle without the use of powerups I'd choose that every time.

And just for the record I have bought crystals, to use for paint and railgun. It was either that or stop playing.

monty...good points! I see they now allow games without using power-ups, but the one game I tried to start with that option cost 244 diamonds; no flipping way was I going to waste my diamonds! There is strategy to this game...Buy your way to the best equipment/paint, run out into the open with a couple of maxed out isida's to heal each other , and win every game! no need to snipe, no need to camouflage, no need to sneak up on a flag....spend money, get Isida with M3 dictator, M3 gun, digital paint, and GAME OVER!

The game play dies only when it looses balance. Before having drugged up isidas, nobody complained. Even though somebody would say there are no strategies, they would ignore this and continue playing, because that was the same for everyone. If people listened to what we said about isida on the first place, all these disscutions, rather unfair, wouldn't be made.

Just think some official members of Alternativa convinced us that the game is balanced, weapons are well measured, we would all be happy with everything. Instead we saw some people defending their position with speeched like"like it or not", locking our topics.

as you wish!

Yeah just noticed the new button.
Woo yay and

120 for 20 min

Now what the FAQ doesn't say ( or I missed it) is if the price is per player or the just the battle
Assuming the worst

So
20 players
thats
2400 crystals = or 240 double armour & 240 doublepower also = 16.68 USD

So theyre saying that in a usual 20 min battle 480 bought powerups are used!
Think something has to become cheaper.

But if its 120/number of players then woo yay.

Also, many times I've created battles and no one has joined, what happens then?

So thanks Tanki and... erm think it need a bit of tweaking.
Just looked, lots of battles but no one has created a drug free battle. Maybe Im wrong

So I try a battle. 15mins
90 crystals, and thats each player.
Wait for someone to join.... drive about. Get bored ditch tank in trench.
5mins left still no one. Watching TV now.
Here the noise for the flag being captured!
respawn already lost the flag

more strart to join.
Finally a battle.
Oh wait its over

And for those that dont know as the time ticks down the battle cost gets cheaper, so those who joined 5 min in only paid about 25.

so erm

Hey look, there's a little thing.

I am pretty sure we have missed something. There should be things that we haven't taken into count. Are the same discussions going on in the Russian forum?

Maybe on the Russian community, people are happy with these all. They like isidas, they like things we don't. If 50% of players were unhappy with all the things we say, then Alternativa would simply change them.

We are the 1%. and as i complained monthes ago, there isn't much documentation for us.We should find out the logic behind the enter fee ourselves. We should learn why some guns are annoying. no official members describe things for us. Thats i think why we don't like things. Only the anti protest police, often times closes our topics and bans someone, no more actions from their side!

Seriously, i really think there is something that we missed. maybe there's a button that they didn't told us about, by pushing it things all go OK, i don't know.